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Sakura SmartSection
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Morken, Timothy
2015-07-10 19:25:56 UTC
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Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
Department of Pathology
UC San Francisco Medical Center
Simmons, Christopher
2015-07-10 19:43:37 UTC
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Have it smart section undecalcified bone or teeth in plastic then I might give it a look
But only a look
You can never take the art away from the technicians
Ever

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> Tim Morken
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Morken, Timothy
2015-07-10 19:58:17 UTC
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Definitely it's not going to be the best solution for everything in histology. Routine cutting will be the main task, and controls slides are a natural. Considering the trouble we have finding good histotechs, a robot that works continuously can really take the pressure off the routine work and let our techs do the more complicated work.

Consider this as well: Sakura is redesigning its entire instrument line to allow robotic handoffs between them. We will see a totally robotic histology lab (tissue processing to H&E) in the near future.

Tim

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From: Simmons, Christopher [mailto:***@UPMC.EDU]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:44 PM
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Have it smart section undecalcified bone or teeth in plastic then I might give it a look But only a look You can never take the art away from the technicians Ever

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> Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.
>
>
> Tim Morken
> Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
> Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
> Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center
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Cooper, Brian
2015-07-10 19:59:43 UTC
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I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor
Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357   
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Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
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Willis, Donna G.
2015-07-10 20:46:47 UTC
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Brian,
I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different. His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections. The sections are placed on the slide by the robot.

We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot. I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs. It is a really nice unit. I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
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From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357
***@chla.usc.edu


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From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
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Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
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Cooper, Brian
2015-07-10 21:40:17 UTC
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Ah! I stand corrected. I have to admit, I'm really leery about letting automated microtomes be in the same vicinity of renal or liver needle biopsies--are you guys comfortable with this?

Brian


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From: Willis, Donna G. [mailto:***@baylorhealth.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:47 PM
To: Cooper, Brian; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection

Brian,
I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different. His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections. The sections are placed on the slide by the robot.

We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot. I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs. It is a really nice unit. I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas 75246
214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
BaylorScottandWhite.com



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From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357
***@chla.usc.edu


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From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center

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Willis, Donna G.
2015-07-10 21:46:14 UTC
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I have seen more issues from the human side than automation. Currently all instruments on the market have to still have a technician assist with the microtomy.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas 75246
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From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:40 PM
To: Willis, Donna G.; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection

Ah! I stand corrected. I have to admit, I'm really leery about letting automated microtomes be in the same vicinity of renal or liver needle biopsies--are you guys comfortable with this?

Brian


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From: Willis, Donna G. [mailto:***@baylorhealth.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:47 PM
To: Cooper, Brian; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection

Brian,
I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different. His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections. The sections are placed on the slide by the robot.

We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot. I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs. It is a really nice unit. I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas 75246
214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
BaylorScottandWhite.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357
***@chla.usc.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center

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Morken, Timothy
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Yes, Not to be confused with the AutoSection, which is essential a self-aligning microtome

The SmartSection uses a 5-axis robot (think of one of those robotic arms) to move blocks and slides around a station for sectioning. It picks a block from a rack and places the block in a holder to do the sectioning, mounts the sections on slides and puts in rack. Can detect tissue in the block, face correctly to full face, check for holes in the section (all imaging) and do multiple sections per slide, do levels at programmed depths, etc.

I guess there is not anything online about it. Sakura demoed it at NSH last year to select customers, and not at the general trade show.

Tim

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From: Willis, Donna G. [mailto:***@baylorhealth.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:47 PM
To: 'Cooper, Brian'; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection

Brian,
I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different. His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections. The sections are placed on the slide by the robot.

We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot. I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs. It is a really nice unit. I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas 75246
214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
BaylorScottandWhite.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357
***@chla.usc.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center

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Willis, Donna G.
2015-07-10 22:05:43 UTC
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I wish it was released. Purchasing new microtones this year.

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> On Jul 10, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Morken, Timothy <***@ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> Yes, Not to be confused with the AutoSection, which is essential a self-aligning microtome
>
> The SmartSection uses a 5-axis robot (think of one of those robotic arms) to move blocks and slides around a station for sectioning. It picks a block from a rack and places the block in a holder to do the sectioning, mounts the sections on slides and puts in rack. Can detect tissue in the block, face correctly to full face, check for holes in the section (all imaging) and do multiple sections per slide, do levels at programmed depths, etc.
>
> I guess there is not anything online about it. Sakura demoed it at NSH last year to select customers, and not at the general trade show.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willis, Donna G. [mailto:***@baylorhealth.edu]
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:47 PM
> To: 'Cooper, Brian'; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection
>
> Brian,
> I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different. His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections. The sections are placed on the slide by the robot.
>
> We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot. I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs. It is a really nice unit. I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.
>
> Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
> Anatomic Pathology Manager
>
> Baylor University Medical Center
> 3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas 75246
> 214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
> BaylorScottandWhite.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
> To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection
>
> I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.
>
> I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
> 4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
> Ph: 323.361.3357
> ***@chla.usc.edu
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
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> Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection
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> Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.
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> Tim Morken
> Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
> Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center
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Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
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We have 3 and LOVE them!

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From: Willis, Donna G. [mailto:***@baylorhealth.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:47 PM
To: 'Cooper, Brian'; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Brian,
I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different. His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections. The sections are placed on the slide by the robot.

We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot. I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs. It is a really nice unit. I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas 75246
214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary! The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing. Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that.

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went! Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357
***@chla.usc.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center

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I agree with you Donna but we can't deny the support of the robots and the automation which help much and give a fantastic job with less time even in the most special technique in histopath.


Regards

Jamal Rowaihi
Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
Al Borg Medical Laboratories

*Sent from my cell phoner*

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From: "Willis, Donna G." <***@baylorhealth.edu>
Date: 07/11/2015 12:46 AM (GMT+03:00)
To: "'Cooper, Brian'" <***@chla.usc.edu>,"Morken, Timothy" <***@ucsf.edu>,***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I have seen more issues from the human side than automation.  Currently all instruments on the market have to still have a technician assist with the microtomy.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas  75246
214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:40 PM
To: Willis, Donna G.; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection

Ah!  I stand corrected.  I have to admit, I'm really leery about letting automated microtomes be in the same vicinity of renal or liver needle biopsies--are you guys comfortable with this?  

Brian


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From: Willis, Donna G. [mailto:***@baylorhealth.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:47 PM
To: Cooper, Brian; Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: Sakura SmartSection

Brian,
I think the unit that Tim is talking about is something different.  His unit has not need for a tech to pick up sections.  The sections are placed on the slide by the robot. 

We are currently demoing the new Sakura Tissue Tek Auto Section Microtome that does not use a robot.  I will have to say that if it is the same unit that you looked at years ago, they have worked out the bugs.  It is a really nice unit.  I technicians do not want the unit to leave when the demo is complete.

Donna Willis, HT/HTL(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Manager

Baylor University Medical Center
3500 Gaston Ave|Dallas, Texas  75246
214-820-2465 office|214-725-6184 mobile
BaylorScottandWhite.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Cooper, Brian [mailto:***@chla.usc.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Morken, Timothy; ***@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

I went to Sakura to see that thing on a demo a few years back, and it was . . . scary!  The sales reps couldn't get it calibrated right, and it ripped tissue out of the blocks while it was trimming on a few occasions. Not one of us in the room (pretty much all experienced bench histotechs) could collect ribbons, though I suspect this could have been a learning curve type thing.  Aside from that, I will say that they had the ability to realign blocks pretty well perfected, and I was impressed by that. 

I went back to Sakura about a year later for something else, and our rep was still shaking her head about how bad that demo experience went!   Sounds like they may have worked out the kinks eh?   

Thanks,

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027
Ph: 323.361.3357
***@chla.usc.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center

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Can't wait to try it! We have 3 Autosections and love them!

-----Original Message-----
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:***@ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura SmartSection

Has anyone done any work with the Sakura SmartSection robot? We've had some blocks cut on it and have had good initial results. This could be a game-changer for histology staffing.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center
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